uuid:bc23357b-5539-da4f-af66-047cca7cd95f Stealth is an accepted trim system with these siding products. PVC trim comes in a variety of sizes, thicknesses, and widths. A: Since a white trimboard facing due south at a 45 angle will not exceed a temperature of 120F, the maximum temperature should never exceed approximately 125F. I have been in construction nearly my entire life and have a fascination with tools and love when they make my life easier. 2015-09-14T17:10:54-04:00 I am thinking it is just Chrities Red Hot, but its really good stuff, makes a strong bond. The Hurd job is all MiraTec fascia and water table and seems to be holding up pretty good. Q: Does VERSATEX require pre-drilling before fastening? Should have expected that answer haha. If a two-component adhesive is specified, use Extreme Adhesives PVC TrimWelder. However, if you do use nails, use a 7d or 8d, 12 gauge, 316 stainless steel nail with annular threads or a combination of annular threads and ring shank. A forum community dedicated to professional construction and remodeling contractors. A: A primer may be needed to receive the paint manufacturers warranty. What Kind Of Oil Should I Use For My Air Compressor? Allow VERSATEX to acclimate to outside temperatures before installing. Original Formula: I was reading questions that were asked by people wanting to know if Gorilla Glue's original formula would work on PVC and wood and many of them stated that it would. Q: Do you recommend nails or screws for fastening VERSATEX trim? Trying to find out how to bond pvc to wood can be a process in itself, sifting through forums looking for different people suggestions and opinions and I spent a lot of time looking through all of the helpful info out there. Slow curing, one-part, urethane-based sealant with high level of flexibility and elongation to absorb expansion and contraction from heat or cold. Either way, found out from the boss today it will be certainteed, so we will use trimtight pvc cement. Weld-On 705 or Christys Red Hot White Vinyl Adhesive are acceptable PVC adhesives. Instead, install furring strips or blocking around the load-bearing post, making sure the outside dimension of the furring strips or blocking is no larger than the inside dimension of the column wrap. CT1 is also perfect for sealing around showers and baths. Too many times we have had cases where contractors believe the paint they used was a light beige only to find out it had an LRV in the 20s or 30s. Whenever possible, install Kleer Products over a continuous substrate to help keep your trim straight and secure. This reaction occurs in the presence of a solvent, so most PVC adhesives will be solvent-based. Very few sealants and adhesives have the power to bond PVC trim to PVC. Ensures 1:1 ratio mix and provides easy adhesive application. CT1 is a revolutionary construction adhesive that not only bonds PVC to PVC but also bonds with wood, concrete, plastic, glass, tiles, most stones, and most synthetic materials. Specifically designed for Azek-to-Azek joints for both the brands trim and molding lines. Enjoy! JavaScript is disabled. Q: What is the recommended fastening spacing for a soffit application? Using a paint with an LRV below 55 units will void our product warranty. Match that with my "research addiction" and you create something like this website! Quickly, easily and securely bond AZEK trim to multiple surfaces with AZEK adhesives engineered specifically to bond with PVC products. The original formula that Gorilla glue uses is also recommended for indoor and outdoor use as well so it will hold up better than super glue but will require a longer "set time". If a structural adhesive is required, most cellular PVC manufacturers recommend methacrylate adhesives, which offer high tensile, shear, and peel strengths as well as stress and impact resistance. Due to its excellent adhesion properties, it is an ideal coating for cellular PVC. Thankfully, you no longer have this problem with CT1. I just tried out OSI TeqBond.OMG that stuff is great. Sanding the surface is an acceptable method of removing blemishes if painting. Keep in mind that cellular PVC may have a static charge on the surface of the product which tends to attract dust. Be sure to allow adequate expansion and contraction space at the end of long runs. d,|l`Y$;=ab]f:3PYawO*;-~pU R{Uvt6r9b#
a/EQ.uu@j'P/w73 Unlike wood or wood composites that are typically wrapped with trim coil and require periodic painting and sealing to protect them from the elements, VERSATEX Trimboards do not require any special installation details or protection from the weather and will last a lifetime. A: You should use a combination of glue and mechanical fasteners. check out the, Ideal for gluing AZEK joints to help prevent joint separation. Whether youre bonding PVC outside, inside, or even underwater, CT1 is the ultimate PVC construction sealant. Q: Can I use just glue or do I have to use glue in combination with fasteners? The solvent the companies like Azek and others supply is water-based and its thick-ish. A: Only light to medium colored paints with a light reflective value of 55 units or greater should be applied to VERSATEX. Liquid nails does have a few products that will work when bonding PVC and wood and the three that the company recommends are: I did find a question on Home Depot's website that was asked by someone wondering if another Liquid Nails product would work on PVC (no wood and PVC) and the manufacturer recommended the above three products. Q: How do you recommend VERSATEX trim be secured to masonry? -Designed by Thrive
Q: What is the best fastening system for VERSATEX PVC trim that also hides the fastener heads? To metal? CT1 is the worlds first tribrid polymer, making it highly effective when it comes to bonding difficult materials such as PVC trim to PVC. Q: Can VERSATEX Trim be used in interior applications. Long lengths show no stress at the joints (no more than wood anyway) and definitely less movement than PVC). Independent third party studies have shown the life cycle cost of VERSATEX to be less than wood, wood composite and other composite trims. One technique is to wipe the exposed area with a solvent. These posts are typically wet from pressure treating and when they dry, they have a tendency to twist. Creates a powerful and reliable material bond with no sanding or scraping required. 2022 AZEK Building Products. Do not use silicone sealants since they are not compatible with cellular PVC trim. Easy loading breech provides secure cartridge fit. It contains no isocyanates and is extremely flexible with excellent resistance to vibration. One user also suggested that the prep work of roughing up the PVC first is a good practice and then clamping everything in place (firmly) will also be a key element to getting the two materials to bond adequately. This is roughly the midpoint between the high and low temperatures the boards will be exposed to. What is the working time on that new stuff anyways? Acrobat PDFMaker 15 for Word However, in all cases there has been a structural sub-fascia to which the 1/2 or 3/8 fascia board has been fully glued and fastened (screwed or nailed). Find products, contact information and articles about. oA-nk*/u`D`~7OcNe LFpow R|W5;\"5@8S;n "lYq7TzvM(F)|`kshz=P90P(q. 93500006-8B7D-43AC-BD94-31E0162F51F2.jpeg, https://www.amazon.com/GORILLA-PVC-R8448124&sr=8-1, If this is your first visit, be sure to
A: Extreme Adhesives PVC TrimWelder has been used as a hole filler. There you can browse our full line of capped composite decking and railing products. Q: Can I rip a 3/8 or 1/2 VERSATEX sheet into boards and use them as a fascia provided I have a solid wood sub-fascia? A: When tested in accordance with ASTM D 695, VERSATEX trim (1/4 to 3/4) achieved ultimate compressive strength values between 2000 psi to 6000 psi, depending on the product thickness. This can be done with sandpaper, a wire wheel attachment, wire brush anything that can roughen up the surface will work. A: Try to install VERSATEX trimboards between 40F and 90F. Other nail hole fillers that perform well but require painting are DAP CrackSHOT high performance paste. Q: Can I paint over a dark color on my VERSATEX trim with a heat reflective coating? Q: What if I want to use a nail rather than a screw? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Sand excess adhesive from the seam once dry for a smooth finish and paint if desired. BTW, pics are welcome and you can also include them in CTs project forum. Solvents tend to soften or melt the cells, sealing them from dust and dirt. View Our Privacy Policy or feel free to contact me. This is also a viable option. Q: What are the recommended installation temperatures? Q: What are your recommendations for dealing with expansion and contraction? Note that superglue will also be a more temporary bond compared to other materials though. A: We recommend the masonry be troweled with a sealant or adhesive first to provide a level/plumb surface to accept the board/sheet and the trim secured with Buildex Tapcon masonry fasteners. Sherwin Williams also offers a field applied coating under their Green Seal product designation. Microsoft Word - Installation Guide.docx ", The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://www.osipro.com/products.pl?id=TEQBOND, https://www.facebook.com/PunchlistCarpentry?ref=hl, http://www.3m.com/product/information/Marine-Fast-Cure-5200-Adhesive-Sealant.html, https://www.facebook.com/Superseal-Construction-162699413750013/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. A: There are many adhesives to choose from, and it depends on the application and the substrates you are trying to bond together. Prior to cleaning, it is a good practice to fill all nail holes and remove any marks or blemishes that appear during the installation process. Q: Can I use the VERSATEX Stealth Trim System with Fiber Cement sidings or any composite siding without voiding their warranty? Some manufacturer's recommend certain products that will work in this scenario as well as Liquid Nails for example, who recommend their Liquid Nails Fuze It and their Liquid Nails Polyurethane Construction adhesive to name a couple of examples. There are a ton of different brands out there to choose from and most will do the trick pretty well. A: Simpson Strong Tie 316 SS Trifecta Nail (combination of annular or screw threads with ring shanks near the top). application/pdf A: Yes. x[sS [En0gDD/#MRqlk?NR>;?i All rights reserved. The report is applicable to all lengths and widths of VERSATEX trimboards, sheets, cornerboards, soffit, fascia, frieze, one-piece column wraps, Stealth Trim profiles, beaded products and moulding profiles. Using A PVC Primer: Someone also stated that instead of sanding the PVC, they used a PVC primer instead, and it worked great because it got rid of the shiny coating and cleaned the surface as well (which is what it is meant to do). A: 12 on center spacing (max) along the perimeter edges of the board, 16 on center across the width at the rafter tails. If you are painting the VERSATEX trim, CrackSHOT by DAP is an excellent high performance spackling paste that is also a very good nail hole filler. Bonding two pieces of cellular PVC typically requires a low-level chemical reaction that generates heat to fuse the boards. is christy's red hot no longer the go to adhesive? 4 oz: AAD004OZ, 8 oz: AAD008OZ, 16 oz: AAD016OZ, 32 oz: AAD032OZ, 128 oz: AAD128OZ, 640 oz: AAD640OZ, White, two-part acrylic-based adhesive ideal for bonding AZEK to AZEK products; also bonds PVC to wood, metal, brick, vinyl, glass and other PVC, Work time 4-7 minutes at 70F after mixing with Qwik-Mixer; fully cures in 24 hours, Requires Qwik-Mixer for easy mixing and dispensing, Work time 15-25 minutes at 70F after mixing with Qwik-Mixer; fully cures in 24 hours, Water soluble for easy cleanup when surfaces still wet. Butt joints are not recommended. A: We do. However, CT1 effectively sticks PVC trim to PVC, making it the most dependable PVC adhesive in the market. Working an a gazebo that is going to have quite a bit of pvc trim work, what are you guys using for gluing up your miters? Word "Under promise, over deliver and all that! 24 per pack. Keep an eye on our events listings here for updates on both in-person and virtual events. CT1 makes sticking PVC trim to PVC a piece of cake. You can now buy CT1 from all Wickes Stores across the UK! Q: Do you recommend gluing a PVC trim fascia board to the wooden sub-fascia? What is the recommended method of attaching this thin board to the sub-fascia? 2015-09-14T17:10:54-04:00 Use AZEK Adhesive to connect trim when a tight compression is required, such as connecting trim end-to-end (scarf joints) and at corners (miter joints). As for sealants, there is nothing better than NPC Solar Seal #900 Sealant/Adhesive in Trimboard white #111.It bonds and seals to VERSATEX as well as many other substrates. "AZEK Adhesive provides a strong AZEK to AZEK bond. How To Use An Air Compressor And A Nail Gun, How To Blow Out Sprinkler Lines Using A Compressor, How To Air Up A Car Tire Using An Air Compressor, How To Air Up A Bicycle Tire Using A Compressor. Not to mention, PVC is very low cost and recyclable, making it a favourite choice for construction and industrial applications. 5 Different Tools You Can Use To Cut Laminate Flooring! VERSATEX 1/2 X 6 Regular and Stealth Beadboard has passed the stringent UL580 Wind Test for coastal ceiling applications. A couple of examples of epoxies that should work are: Mechanically fastening the two materials is probably the most permanent way to get PVC and wood to bond together and is, by far the strongest joint you can get as well. A more viscous superglue will probably be the better option too, as opposed to a runnier type. It is a solvent weld.It smells like Model glue and when I finally was able to break the 45 degree scarf joint, you could see it melted the parts together. Q: When using VERSATEX trim as a column wrap over a treated 4 x 4 or 6 x 6 can I fasten the column wrap directly to the treated member? The fine sanding reduces the cell size, allowing better paint coverage. Fills finish nail holes in PVC trim. Before installation, allow Kleer Products to acclimate to room temperature. Keep in mind the heat distortion temperature of most cellular PVC trims ranges from 145F to 150F. A: As with wood, VERSATEX can be fastened or joined to itself or other substrates using nails, screws, PVC glues, quality polyure-thane adhesives, 2-component adhesives (MMAs), and cyanoacrylates or super glues. Consult these paint manufacturers to determine the available color pallet, and the paints compatibility with VERSATEX cellular PVC trim. A: Cellular PVC will not support combustion and will only burn when in direct contact with a flame source. What are my options for filling the nail holes? Contact a Kleer Lumber Service Representative to learn the right way to tackle your installation challenges. Other recommended sealants include Quad by OSI, Geocel 2300, PL-S40 by LOCTITE, and just about any polyurethane sealant. Today I made up some Azek casing for a circle window. Lauren Hunter, associate editor, REMODELING. I decided to make a short post on what I found regarding bonding pvc to wood in order to organize the information I had found in an easy to read mini resource page to help others. A shiplap joint works best. Fast Cure and Slow Cure both work best filling gaps around trim and with adhesions not requiring a tightly compressed fit. It has excellent colour retention and guarantees a long-lasting finish. Use stainless steel or hot-dipped galvanized nails with a minimum #6 size or Cortex Fasteners, Place fasteners no more than 2 from edge, To help prevent gaps, Kleer Products can be edge or face glued, Never use adhesive alone to attach Kleer Products, To make Kleer Products pliable, apply heat up to 270 degrees for 7 minutes with ovens, heat blankets or box heaters, Always wear protective gloves to avoid skin burns when forming shapes, Allow the trim to cool to room temperature to preserve the new shape. A: You should not attach the VERSATEX column wrap directly to the treated column post. Underwater Sealant: The Best Sea Water Resistant Sealant. PVC trim is waterproof and often used for showers. Made of highly engineered plastic to be lightweight and powerful. Sticky Situation: The Latest PVC Trim Adhesives on the Market. Squeeze Bottle 4 oz: AADB004OZ, 8 oz: AADB008OZ, Container with Applicator 4 oz: AAD004OZ, 8 oz: AAD008OZ, 16 oz: AAD016OZ, 32 oz: AAD032OZ, 128 oz: AAD128OZ, 640 oz: AAD640OZ. We do not recommend galvanized fasteners, since they tend to lose their coatings and rust. A: Use stainless steel annular shank nails or screws designed for wood trim and long enough to penetrate the solid substrate a minimum of 1 1 / 4. Copyright 2022 Zonda Media, a Delaware corporation. Designed to maximize durability. Hot glue guns and superglue will work for lighter-duty projects and is usually a short term way to do it. Versatex president John Pace offers the following notes about adhesives for cellular PVC.